Help?

Dec. 18th, 2005 08:41 pm
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I just discovered a website that's archiving my fic without my permission. I'm trying to figure out how to email the webmaster ask them to take it down, but it seems like the site is Chinese or something. Suggestions?

Date: 2005-12-19 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wrenlet.livejournal.com
... WHAT the hell?? Argh, I have no idea. Nothing even looks like an email link. Grrrrrrr, people suck. (Lookie, even Charlie thinks so.)

Date: 2005-12-19 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josselin.livejournal.com
I found a page called "Report Illegal Use" but the directions read this:


* Do not put the url to subject
* Do not post a one url to each articles. Posting a only one article with a multiple url.
* Do not think you are that board is a illegal board. We need a illegal contents for forbid that board.
* You must be fill up your email address. if the email address is not, i'll ignore that posting.
* If you do not accept this rule I'll ignore.



And I can't make heads or tails of any of it. There's no form or email address or anything.

Date: 2005-12-19 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silly-grl.livejournal.com
I think it translates as:
Don't put the offending url as the subject of your e-mail. Put all the offending urls in one email. Make sure that what you are complaining about is actually illegal. make sure you have a real reply to address or they can not process your complait.

Does that help at all? And I would do a whois on the domain and e-mail the person in charge of it, if you can't find any other info.

Date: 2005-12-19 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dadomz.livejournal.com
You can try writing a report in english... seeing as they've archived your english fictions.

If all else fails, I'll write you a chinese one ^___^

Date: 2005-12-25 04:26 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] litalex.livejournal.com
post the url here and any of us who knows Chinese will probably help you write that *hey, you *ssh*l*s* e-mail...

Why Do You Care?

Date: 2006-05-15 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahj2222.livejournal.com
Aren't you glad people who read Chinese want to read your
stories?

Re: Why Do You Care?

Date: 2006-05-16 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josselin.livejournal.com
Actually, the fic itself wasn't translated, it was just reposted in English. My problem was that I was having trouble figuring out how to contact the webmaster because all of that information was in Chinese.

The whole thing makes me uncomfortable for a few reasons, I guess. I'd rather that my fic is posted by me or by archivists I've asked to post it, so that I can know where it's being read and so that I can have control over how it's edited and presented. Also, that way, if I ever wish to remove it from the internet, I know how to take it down and who to contact to remove it from an archive. If someone wrote to me and asked to translate my fic into another language and told me the details of where they planned to post it and so forth, that would be much different than me just doing a search on my screen name and ending up on some random website I've never heard of, seeing fic just copied and pasted from my site and reposted--there's no reason for anyone to do that, they should just link to where I've made my fic available on my website, my livejournal, or in an archive.

Re: Why Do You Care?

Date: 2006-05-16 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahj2222.livejournal.com
I don't understand your thinking at all.
Imagine that you had a book published and itcirculates throughout
the world..Unless they make money off of your work I can only see it as complement.
Published anything, music, film is a finite thing. The luxury of
changing your work on an ongoing means that what you present
is a work in progresss..I don't think you mean that about your stories.
I am thrilled for you that people who read Chinese, maybe people
in Communist China are reading your stories.
Doesn't that blow you away?
Please answer me off line if you want to continue this in depth.
I would like to seltov@aol

Re: Why Do You Care?

Date: 2006-05-17 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wrenlet.livejournal.com
Considering that sexually explicit fiction is quite possibly ILLEGAL in COMMUNIST CHINA, I completely understand why Josselin would not want her stories reposted on servers located in that country.

Re: Why Do You Care?

Date: 2006-05-17 04:57 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm comfortable responding here, but you can always email me at josselinkohl@hotmail.com if you wish.

I am definitely flattered if people in China want to read my fic (though yeah, like Wrenlet says, I hope that it never means I'll be carted off to a secret prison or anything). The problem is that mainly I want to *know* about it. In my journal and my site and archives I choose, I have knowledge and control. I control how I post fic, how I revise fic, how I take fic down if I choose. I also have knowledge--I know from comments and email and page-hits and links who has been reading and enjoying and what they think.

If other people want to share my fic with people they know, then on their site they should just post a link to one of the places I've posted it. Their friends can enjoy my fic, and I still have the control that I want and the knowledge, because I can see the hits and the referrers when I'm curious who has been reading. Reposting bothers me because it takes away my control and because it happens without my knowledge (if someone asked me for permission to repost, then that would be a different matter that I'd have to consider, probably based on how well I knew and trusted the person wishing to repost).

Re: Why Do You Care?

Date: 2006-05-17 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josselin.livejournal.com
Whoops, I got logged out, but the above comment is me.

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